Inside the Boiler Room

ABMA has launched our podcast - Inside The Boiler Room.  If you are working with boilers, this podcast is for you. The podcast has been established to raise awareness of today’s boiler industry and share important issues impacting our sector.

You can listen to our podcasts below or download them using the following links. iTunes - Stitcher - Podbean

Season 2

Episode #3 - All Eyes on BOILER 2022 - Reasons to Participate, ABMA Interview with HPAC 'On the Air'

In this episode, Rob McManamy, HPAC 'On the Air's' podcast host and HPAC Engineering magazine's Editor-in-Chief interviews ABMA's Advisory Committee Chair Eric Graham and event organizer and Marketing Director Shaunica Jayson about ABMA's new show for the boiler supply chain, which is finally at hand. They explain why BOILER 2022 is such a big deal.

Episode #2 - Modular Steam Generators with Holger Deimann, CERTUSS America L.P.

In this episode, Holger shares an overview of the modular boiler concept for steam generators from manufacturing to installation and operation. He also highlights the importance of maintenance and water treatment which is critical no matter what boiler is in operation.

To learn more about CERTUSS America L.P., visit their website at and follow them on LinkedIn at CERTUSS America L.P. 

Episode #1 - National Board & The Boiler Inspector with Joel Amato, NBBIJoel Amato from the National Board of Boiler & Pressure Vessel Inspectors joins ABMA’s Inside the Boiler Room to discuss the National Board’s role of overseeing adherence to laws, rules, and regulations relating to boilers and pressure vessels. In this episode, Joel shares his background and the history of the National Board along with the importance of the state inspector and NBIC code along with the significance of the NB stamp and their new initiatives.

To learn more about the National Board, visit their website at and follow them on Twitter: @NBBIdotorg.

Season 1

Episode #18 - Who You Gonna Call?  Rental Boilers – Critical When You Need Them with Larry Day, Nationwide BoilerThis episode of Inside the Boiler Room features Larry Day, President & CEO of Nationwide Boiler sharing his insights on the world of rental boilers that has significant relevance during the COVID-19 crisis with boilers near capacity at many hospitals and food processing facilities. Please note, this episode was recorded on Wednesday, April 15, 2020.

After listening to this podcast, you will understand what an important role the boiler rental sector plays for many end-users of our products. If you are not familiar with rental boilers and use boilers for any reason, the knowledge from this podcast may come in handy in the future.

Nationwide is a member of the ABMA’s Rental Group. Below is a link to each of our rental companies.

Cleaver-Brooks Sales & Service

Nationwide Boiler

Power Mechanical

Powerhouse Equipment

Wabash Power


We discussed the basics of rental boilers and why an end-user would need a rental boiler. These boilers can also be categorized as mobile boiler units or boiler trailers and we may be using them interchangeably during the episode.

You might think that rental boilers are only for emergencies but Larry stated the rental business has evolved and only about 15% of their business is emergencies, many are planned outages or seasonal needs for additional steam and hot water.

Beyond the basics, we discussed how end-users can prepare for outreach to rental companies to expedite the process and the importance of preparing the site for the rental delivery.

We wrapped up our conversation discussing potential challenges with different technology and maintenance of the rental boiler system.

During the episode, Larry mentions ABMA’s Guidelines to Rental Boilers which is a great resource for end-users.

To learn more about Nationwide Boiler, please visit their website at the link above or find them on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram, or Twitter, @SteamNow.

Episode #17 - Navigating Uncharted Waters – Boiler Industry & COVID-19 with Doug Wright, Superior Boiler

This is a special episode of Inside the Boiler Room featuring Doug Wright, President & CEO of Superior Boiler and Vice-Chair of ABMA. Please note, this episode was recorded on Thursday, April 2, 2020.

Doug joined ABMA President & CEO Scott Lynch for a discussion on how Superior Boiler and the boiler industry are adapting to the ever-evolving situation with the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic.

The conversation began by going back to early March when it seemed like business as usual. This quickly changed around March 12th and within days, daily interactions were significantly impacted. Doug shared how Superior Boiler reacted to the initial information on the virus and how they began to take action within the company to ensure the health and safety of their employees.

The discussion transitioned to the critical role of the boiler industry in supporting the global infrastructure and their focus on continuing to manufacture while taking all the proper precautions.

The episode concluded with a conversation about the resources ABMA has provided and how Superior Boiler is using the information to address the challenges set forth by these unique times.

To learn more about Superior Boiler, please visit their website at

Episode #16 - Boiler Product Safety & Performance – Partnering with Industry to Foster Innovation with Kevin Choi, UL LLC

Episode #16 is sponsored by Webster Combustion Technology

Kevin Choi from UL LLC joins us for Episode #16 of Inside the Boiler Room. Kevin is an Engineering Leader for UL of Canada.

This episode is sponsored by Webster Combustion Technology. Webster is a long-standing member of ABMA and a leader in burner technology for the boiler industry. For more details on Webster, please visit their web site at

The podcast begins with an overview of what makes UL unique and an effective third-party and then a discussion of how UL partners with manufacturers throughout the listing process and what UL listed products should mean to the boiler end-user. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the importance of proper maintenance and staying current with today’s standards and technology.

To learn more about UL, visit On their homepage, you can search for boilers and their Product IQ feature shared in the podcast.

Episode #15 - Dispelling Boiler Myths for the Commercial Sector with Ray Wohlfarth, Fire & Ice Heating & Cooling
Episode #15 is sponsored by Preferred Utilities Manufacturing Corporation

Author and Industry Columnist Ray Wohlfarth joins ABMA for Episode #15 of Inside the Boiler Room to discuss the benefits of boilers in the commercial sector. Ray is also president of Fire & Ice Heating & Cooling in Pittsburgh, PA.

ABMA would to thank long-time ABMA Member Preferred Utilities for sponsoring this podcast episode. To learn more about Preferred, visit them at

This episode begins with Ray sharing an overview of his boiler career and his passion for working with boiler operators then jumps into dispelling boiler myths as it relates to the commercial sector and compares commercial boilers with VRF systems in the areas of safety, reliability, efficiency and maintenance.

Throughout the conversation, you will enjoy Ray’s passion for job in boiler industry and realize that he has seen and solved countless problems in a boiler room.

To learn more about Ray Wohlfarth, visit and follow him on Twitter @FireIceHeat. For Fire & Ice, visit their website at

Episode #14 - Do you Know the Water Level in Your Boiler? – Boiler Drum Level Instrumentation with Jim Kolbus, Clark-Reliance

Jim Kolbus from Clark-Reliance joins ABMA for Episode #14 of Inside the Boiler Room.  This is Jim’s second time on Inside the Boiler Room. He was also featured in Episode #3 focusing on boiler installation.

In this episode, Jim brings his expertise to the topic of boiler drum level instrumentation.  Jim regularly presents on this topic and is the lead author of their guidebook on Drum Level Instrumentation Guideline that is updated regularly based on changes in the ASME code.

This episode discusses the importance of drum level instrumentation and the various types of direct reading glass gages and indirect remote level indicators.

In addition, we delve into the importance of proper installation and outside influences that can effect operations including proper piping and value selection concluding with a discussion of ASME codes as it relates to drum level instrumentation along with common code violations Clark-Reliance sees in the field and the corrective measures to address them.

Episode #13 - Energy Research to Transformative Solutions with Tom Wenning, Oak Ridge National Laboratories (ORNL)
Tom Wenning from Oak Ridge National Laboratories (ORNL) joins ABMA for Episode #13 of the Inside the Boiler Room.  ORNL is the largest US Department of Energy science and energy laboratory, conducting basic and applied research to deliver transformative solutions to compelling problems in energy and security.

This episode shares insights on the impactful research taking place at ORNL and the resources for boiler manufacturers and end-users of our products including the Better Buildings, Better Plants program, Federal Energy Management Program and new online tools available to assess your current energy management along with the value and impact of future investment.

Episode #12 - Demystifying the Flame - Burner Technology for Firetube Boilers with Bob Rizza, Power Flame & Eric Graham, Webster CombustionBob Rizza from Power Flame and Eric Graham from Webster Combustion join ABMA for Episode #12 of Inside the Boiler Room to share insights on burners for firetube boilers.  This episode features discussions on recent burner technology advances, purchasing a new burner, proper burner installation and ways to ensure efficiency during operation.

Episode #11 - Leading Boiler Industry with John Viskup - President & CEO – Victory EnergyNewly elected ABMA Board Chair John Viskup, President & CEO of Victory Energy, joins Inside the Boiler Room for Episode #11.

Guest interviewer Robert Beverly, the editor of ABMA’s magazine Today’s Boiler and senior editor of The News, talks with Viskup about his origins in the boiler industry, the continuing innovation in our sector and how ABMA members are solutions providers for their customers. He also shares why Victory is a member of ABMA, how the association is addressing industry-wide issues such as workforce development.

Episode #10 - Live from 2019 Annual Meeting - Flying Drones & ThunderbirdsThis episode of Inside the Boiler Room follows a flying theme with discussions with two speakers from our 2019 Annual Meeting. Johan Mlouka from Flyability kicks off the episode sharing opportunities of drone technology in boiler installation, inspection and maintenance.

The episode concludes with Nicole Malachowski, the female Air Force Thunderbird Pilot sharing her story that begins with military achievement in a male-dominated hierarchy to overcoming life-threatening situations by Harnessing Headwinds of Change and growing from her experiences.

Episode #9 - The Right Boiler for the Application – Understanding Boiler Types for Steam Applications with Gene Tompkins, ABMA Technical ConsultantEpisode #9 is sponsored by Superior Boiler.

This episode features a discussion with ABMA Technical Consultant Gene Tompkins on the basic types of boilers and includes highlights of ABMA’s new publication titled the Differences in Boiler Types, authored by Gene.

ABMA would to thank long-time ABMA Member Superior Boiler for sponsoring this podcast episode. To learn more about Superior, visit them at

Episode #8 - Using SCR Systems to Address NOx Requirements with Dustin Divinia, Vector Systems & Sean McMenamin, Nationwide BoilerThis episode features Dustin Divinia from Vector Systems & Sean McMenamin from Nationwide Boiler for a discussion on Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) systems to address NOx emissions This episode shares the features of the SCR systems and what end-users should know about the installation and maintenance of the system.

Episode #7 - Live from MC 2018 – Keynote Insights from Jerrod Murr & Darren McBurnettThis special episode of Inside of the Boiler Room features interviews with 2018 Manufacturers Conference keynote speakers Jerrod Murr of Paradigm Shift and Retired Navy Seal Darren McBurnett.  If you lead or wish to lead within your company, this podcast is for you. Their messages will inspire you to be a better leader and focus on building exceptional teams within your company.

Episode #6 - Deaeration – Essential to Effective Boiler Operation with Tom Garbarino, BFS Industries & Jeremy Zellmer, Industrial Steam
Tom Garbarino of BFS Industries and Jeremy Zellmer of Industrial Steam joins ABMA for Episode #6 of the podcast to discuss the importance of deaeration in the boiler room. This episode features the benefits and impact of deaeration, common mistakes with deaerator installation and how end-users can head off water treatment issues.

Episode #5 - Economic Headwinds & Tailwinds for the Boiler Industry with Connor Lokar, ITR EconomicsEpisode #5 of Inside the Boiler Room features Connor Lokar from ITR Economics.  This episode includes an economic outlook for overall economy and boiler industry, the short and long-term impact of Trump Administration focus on tariffs and the realities for coal, gas and renewables.

Episode #4 - Want to Optimize Boiler Efficiency – Maintenance & Training is a Necessity with Steven Taylor - Director of Sales, Rental Equipment and Special Projects - WareSteve Taylor from WARE joins ABMA for Episode #4 of the podcast to discuss the importance of boiler maintenance and training. Our conversation addressed the need for a comprehensive maintenance schedule, how to head off issues before they become big problems and the importance of partnering with expert field technicians.

In addition, we discussed the importance of training for boiler installers, operators and anyone working with boilers and Steve shared some details on WARE’s Boiler University.

Episode #3 – Properly Installing A Boiler Is Not As Easy As 1-2-3 with Gene Tompkins, ABMA and Jim Kolbus, Clark-Reliance
This episode discusses the importance of proper boiler installation with the publication authors Gene Tompkins, ABMA’s Technical Consultant and Jim Kolbus, product manager at Clark-Reliance. Our discussion touches on various areas of the boiler installation from common missteps and the role of codes and standards to what can happen if the boiler is not properly installed by a trained technician.

Episode #2 - Beyond the Headlines - Federal Energy & Environmental Policy with Ross Eisenberg, National Association of Manufacturers
Ross Eisenberg, vice president of energy and resources policy at the National Association of Manufacturers (NAM) joins the podcast to discuss the outlook for Federal Energy and Environmental policy in the age of Trump.  During our discussion, we discuss the unique times in Washington, the Trump Administration’s focus on manufacturing and the outlook for energy and environmental policies from DOE and EPA that could have an impact on the global boiler industry.

Episode #1 – Work with Boilers? – This Podcast Is For YouThis episode is an introduction to the American Boiler Manufacturers Association (ABMA) and our new podcast. We share insights on why ABMA decided to produce a podcast, what to expect and preview a few upcoming episodes.